Carthage, Tibet and Kolyma – what is in common? Who before Carthage
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In the stories of N.M. Przhevalsky there is such a legend that he heard from the Tibetans. She once explained to travelers perceptible distrust of the locals.
I quote:
Many of the local legends are distinguished by originality. There is a legend, very reminiscent of the legend of the construction of Dido Carthage.
In times of very old, it was as if some yan-guiza came to the border of Tibet in order to get inside the country, but he was not allowed to go there. Then he asked him to sell a piece of land, equal to the bull’s hide. The Tibetans agreed to this, concluded a formal condition and took the money.
Yang-guise cut the skin into thin straps and traced them over a large area of land, which no one could dispute with him. Since then, Tibetans have become afraid of cunning Europeans.
About Dido (in Roman mythology, the queen, the founder of Carthage) usually says the following. Having fled after the death of her husband with many companions and treasures in AFRICA, Dido bought land from the Berber king Yarb. According to the condition, she could take as much land as she covered the bull skin and cut the skin into thin straps, Dido surrounded them with a large area and founded the citadel of Carthage on the land of Beersa
Does this story repeat elsewhere? – Yes, and, as it turns out, a lot.
A similar plot was written by L.S. Tolstova in Khiva, among Turkmen in the 20th century. This legend tells how Hazirat Polvan-ata managed to fraudulently demand the king of India as many people as fit on the cows skin: cutting the cow skin into thin straps, he surrounded a large area, on which he placed many people of these people he took into Khorezm.
Numerous legends about the bull, helping people to develop new lands, or providing services at the founding of new cities and villages, were fixed by G.P. Snesarev in the Turkic-speaking population of the Khorezm oasis.
For example, this author also has the motive of cunning, deception during the development of new lands, when the new settlers ask the owners for "a little bit of land – the size of only a bull skin".
This story was also found among the small northern people of the Yukagirs, whose language the researchers still find it difficult to attribute to a specific language family. In the Yukagir legend, “Peter Berbekin” tells how the old men send Pyotr Berbekin to the lord of the Upper World.
Peter Berbekin takes the bull’s skin, cuts it in a circle with a narrow ribbon and has a long ribbon. Having come to the Upper World, Peter surrounded himself with a huge area with a ribbon, made a border and scattered the ground inside it, grabbed it and put crosses at the four corners.
Thus, he made a middle land for himself and began to live here. The Lord of the Upper World sent his subordinates to punish Peter Berbakin, but they could not do it, because they could not get inside the fenced territory.
Peter answered them that he was on his own land. Indeed, the land is fenced on all sides, crosses are placed on all four sides and there is no place to get from there.
So Peter Berbekin escaped punishment.
The motifs of settling new lands with the help of a bull or moving to new lands on the back of a bull also adjoin this story about trickery with the earth with the help of a ribbon cut from a bull hide. The motive of settling new lands with the help of a bull is also found in the Zoroastrian text of the Bundahishn, which speaks of the chapters of six clans who crossed the lake of Vourukash and settled new lands on the back of the mythical bull. Taken here
The conclusion is obvious. The legend has a prototype event – here, not as with a flood that has touched many inhabitants of the Earth – this prototype is not rooted in historical myths, but is located deeper in the true chronicle of earthly events.
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In the stories of N.M. Przhevalsky there is such a legend that he heard from the Tibetans. She once explained to travelers perceptible distrust of the locals.
I quote:
Many of the local legends are distinguished by originality. There is a legend, very reminiscent of the legend of the construction of Dido Carthage.
In times of very old, it was as if some yan-guiza came to the border of Tibet in order to get inside the country, but he was not allowed to go there. Then he asked him to sell a piece of land, equal to the bull’s hide. The Tibetans agreed to this, concluded a formal condition and took the money.
Yang-guise cut the skin into thin straps and traced them over a large area of land, which no one could dispute with him. Since then, Tibetans have become afraid of cunning Europeans.
About Dido (in Roman mythology, the queen, the founder of Carthage) usually says the following. Having fled after the death of her husband with many companions and treasures in AFRICA, Dido bought land from the Berber king Yarb. According to the condition, she could take as much land as she covered the bull skin and cut the skin into thin straps, Dido surrounded them with a large area and founded the citadel of Carthage on the land of Beersa
Does this story repeat elsewhere? – Yes, and, as it turns out, a lot.
A similar plot was written by L.S. Tolstova in Khiva, among Turkmen in the 20th century. This legend tells how Hazirat Polvan-ata managed to fraudulently demand the king of India as many people as fit on the cows skin: cutting the cow skin into thin straps, he surrounded a large area, on which he placed many people of these people he took into Khorezm.
Numerous legends about the bull, helping people to develop new lands, or providing services at the founding of new cities and villages, were fixed by G.P. Snesarev in the Turkic-speaking population of the Khorezm oasis.
For example, this author also has the motive of cunning, deception during the development of new lands, when the new settlers ask the owners for "a little bit of land – the size of only a bull skin".
This story was also found among the small northern people of the Yukagirs, whose language the researchers still find it difficult to attribute to a specific language family. In the Yukagir legend, “Peter Berbekin” tells how the old men send Pyotr Berbekin to the lord of the Upper World.
Peter Berbekin takes the bull’s skin, cuts it in a circle with a narrow ribbon and has a long ribbon. Having come to the Upper World, Peter surrounded himself with a huge area with a ribbon, made a border and scattered the ground inside it, grabbed it and put crosses at the four corners.
Thus, he made a middle land for himself and began to live here. The Lord of the Upper World sent his subordinates to punish Peter Berbakin, but they could not do it, because they could not get inside the fenced territory.
Peter answered them that he was on his own land. Indeed, the land is fenced on all sides, crosses are placed on all four sides and there is no place to get from there.
So Peter Berbekin escaped punishment.
The motifs of settling new lands with the help of a bull or moving to new lands on the back of a bull also adjoin this story about trickery with the earth with the help of a ribbon cut from a bull hide. The motive of settling new lands with the help of a bull is also found in the Zoroastrian text of the Bundahishn, which speaks of the chapters of six clans who crossed the lake of Vourukash and settled new lands on the back of the mythical bull. Taken here
The conclusion is obvious. The legend has a prototype event – here, not as with a flood that has touched many inhabitants of the Earth – this prototype is not rooted in historical myths, but is located deeper in the true chronicle of earthly events.
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